News, Trends, and Insights for IT & Managed Services Providers
News, Trends, and Insights for IT & Managed Services Providers

Live Show / Live Shows

Debunking the Myth: Are MSPs Really Bad at Sales?” with Ryan Morris

On the go? Listen to the Audio Podcast instead

Your Host

Dave sobel, host of the business of tech podcast
Dave Sobel
Dave Sobel is a leading expert in the delivery of technology services with broad experience in both technology and business. He owned and operated a technology solution provider for over a decade, and worked for vendors leading community, marketing, product strategies, and M&A activities.

This content is made possible by community-minded viewers like you

Thank you

Support Business of Tech

Episode Description

Dave Sobel engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Ryan Morris, Principal Consultant at Morris Management Partners, about the common myths surrounding sales in the Managed Service Provider (MSP) space. The conversation begins by challenging the notion that MSPs are inherently bad at sales. Morris argues that while many MSPs may struggle to scale their sales operations, they possess the foundational skills necessary to sell. He emphasizes that the entrepreneurial journey requires a blend of technical, operational, and promotional skills, which many MSP owners already have. The discussion highlights that the perception of MSPs being poor at sales is often an oversimplification and may stem from a lack of investment in developing those skills.

As the conversation progresses, Sobel and Morris delve into the relationship between sales strategies and business growth. They explore how some MSPs choose to maintain a steady, owner-led sales approach, while others opt for a more aggressive growth strategy by investing in sales processes. Morris points out that the quality of sales is not merely about volume but rather about predictability and profitability. He notes that successful MSPs often have a well-defined sales engine that allows them to forecast revenue accurately, which is crucial for making informed business decisions.

The discussion also touches on the evolving landscape of technology and the challenges MSPs face in adapting to new market demands. Sobel raises concerns about the potential obsolescence of traditional MSP services due to automation and artificial intelligence. He argues that as technology becomes more self-sufficient, MSPs must pivot their focus from merely managing existing systems to providing value-added services that address business challenges. Morris agrees, stressing the importance of understanding customer needs and delivering solutions that go beyond basic technical support.

In conclusion, the episode emphasizes the need for MSPs to embrace transformation and invest in their sales capabilities to remain competitive in a rapidly changing market. Sobel and Morris encourage MSP owners to prioritize building relationships and understanding the psychology of sales, rather than getting bogged down in administrative tasks. By doing so, they can create a more effective sales strategy that not only drives revenue but also enhances customer satisfaction and loyalty. The conversation serves as a call to action for MSPs to rethink their approach to sales and adapt to the evolving demands of their clients.

Choose your upgrade:

Get the full benefits of Business of Tech Plus

Insider Access

$12/month

Perfect for MSPs and ITSPs that want full interviews, early access, and ad-free listening

  • Programmatic Ad-free private podcast feedSame show, little interruptions
  • Channel Chatter previews1–2 topics with light insights
  • Early access to interview episodesHear it days before public release
  • Monthly Insider BriefTighter analysis you can share internally
  • Extra audio segmentsCut interviews, behind-the-scenes commentary, quick competitive notes
  • Become an Insider for $12/month

    Leadership Access

    $149/month

    Perfect for MSPs and Vendors that run a team and need the extended tactics, executive summaries, and weekly alignment brief

  • All Insider Access benefits plus . . .
  • Invite your teamIncludes access for 5 team members with option to add more
  • Vendor Strategy BriefsThe entire library, plus new analysis every month
  • Channel ChatterAll topics, full insights, complete vendor discussion + sentiment list
  • Quarterly State of the Channel Briefing
  • Monthly AMA submission priorityAsk Dave direct questions, and skip the line
  • Get the Leadership Edge for $149/month

    Vendor Partner

    $500/month

    Perfect for channel companies or vendors looking to deepen their engagement with the show.

  • All Leadership Access benefits plus . . .
  • Get highlighted as a show sponsor You'll get placement in the show notes, throughout the website, and on our dedicated sponsors page.
  • Enjoy regular shout outs You'll be featured in a rotating format during the show
  • Become a show sponsor for $500/month

    Search all stories